“And the award for the most ethical conman goes to Frank W. Abagnale Jr.”

-Xavier University

Thanks to the host of the Scams and Cons podcast ,Jim Grinstead, for confronting Abagnale last night at Xavier University. 

During the Q&A portion of the Ethics awards ceremony, Jim asked, “Your fortune has been built on…lies. And there are public records…outlined you were actually in jail.  So you couldn’t have done those things….”

The audio recording of this is brilliant. I can’t wait for you to hear it. 

Javier